Joker: he was ganged up on and killed in the game Joker: after the game, he wanted to fight the person who killed him but he was riddled with bullet holes Joker: I tried to get him to calm down and wait until he was healed because he was going to get himself killed Joker: he wouldn't listen, so I knocked him out and got Lucifel to heal him Joker: when he came too, he was pissed because I did that without his say and got in his way Joker: so we fought Joker: and then he stormed out Joker: and I guess he went to fight the guy who killed him and got more than he bargained for Joker: again Joker: like it doesn't even fucking matter Joker: don't even know why i bothered Joker: he's just another adult who pretends he knows what's what and puts the blame on me for not getting his way, anyway
[. . . sounds like something Mars would do if he were pushed far enough. . .]
Mars: whoa Mars: sounds like a real asshole Mars: he could've just been angry in the moment and was looking for a random target to yell at, and you just happened to be there Mars: but it doesn't make him any less of an asshole Mars: will he be okay?
Mars: him saying he's fine and actually being fine are two different things Mars: but i know you know that Mars: why are you pissed at him, anyway? Mars: because you cared, and he threw it back in your face? Mars: or because he's blaming you for his own questionable decisions?
Joker: more the first one i guess Joker: plus Joker: sounded like he killed Yasuragi Joker: and that hurt Phoenix a lot Joker: so i'm pissed about that, too
[he also doesn't fully understand the entanglement of relationships here, but. . . he doesn't think he needs to in order to get the gist of what happened]
Mars: yasuragi being one of the guys who jumped him during the game? Mars: it's that. . . one of fox's people?
[he does, however, remember hearing that name from Fox]
Mars: personally speaking, i don't think there's much of a difference between what occurs in a game or outside of one Mars: and i gotta admit that i'd be pretty fucking furious if i got jumped in a game too Mars: probably to the point of where i'd want to fight the guys responsible on even ground, win or loss Mars: so i'd recommend keeping that in mind Mars: otherwise? don't worry about being angry. Mars: because you're entitled to feel that way
Joker: yeah no offence but it's not you or Heart Soldier Senshi I'm worried about Joker: we've gone a lot of days without there being murder outside of games Joker: so you say there isn't much difference Joker: but there is
[CONSIDERING HE FOUGHT DOODLEMAN EARLIER WITH THE FULL UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE OF THEM COULD DIE]
Mars: but if there's one person on your team that this yasuragi guy cares about Mars: then shouldn't that be reason enough for him and his people to leave you guys alone?
[between this and the "not your Crow" comment yesterday, a memory that suddenly comes back to him rather vividly, Mars is. . . sudden unsure on how to proceed]
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[ooooooh dear]
Mars: whaaaaat happened?
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Joker: after the game, he wanted to fight the person who killed him but he was riddled with bullet holes
Joker: I tried to get him to calm down and wait until he was healed because he was going to get himself killed
Joker: he wouldn't listen, so I knocked him out and got Lucifel to heal him
Joker: when he came too, he was pissed because I did that without his say and got in his way
Joker: so we fought
Joker: and then he stormed out
Joker: and I guess he went to fight the guy who killed him and got more than he bargained for
Joker: again
Joker: like it doesn't even fucking matter
Joker: don't even know why i bothered
Joker: he's just another adult who pretends he knows what's what and puts the blame on me for not getting his way, anyway
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Mars: whoa
Mars: sounds like a real asshole
Mars: he could've just been angry in the moment and was looking for a random target to yell at, and you just happened to be there
Mars: but it doesn't make him any less of an asshole
Mars: will he be okay?
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...
no
maybe not
that.]
Joker: he says he's fine
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Mars: but i know you know that
Mars: why are you pissed at him, anyway?
Mars: because you cared, and he threw it back in your face?
Mars: or because he's blaming you for his own questionable decisions?
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Joker: more the first one i guess
Joker: plus
Joker: sounded like he killed Yasuragi
Joker: and that hurt Phoenix a lot
Joker: so i'm pissed about that, too
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[he also doesn't fully understand the entanglement of relationships here, but. . . he doesn't think he needs to in order to get the gist of what happened]
Mars: yasuragi being one of the guys who jumped him during the game?
Mars: it's that. . . one of fox's people?
[he does, however, remember hearing that name from Fox]
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that's true, too.]
Joker: great
Joker: super
Joker: and also murder outside of a game
Joker: sure to be great
Joker: Bad End continuing to have bad ends
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Mars: and i gotta admit that i'd be pretty fucking furious if i got jumped in a game too
Mars: probably to the point of where i'd want to fight the guys responsible on even ground, win or loss
Mars: so i'd recommend keeping that in mind
Mars: otherwise? don't worry about being angry.
Mars: because you're entitled to feel that way
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Joker: we've gone a lot of days without there being murder outside of games
Joker: so you say there isn't much difference
Joker: but there is
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[CONSIDERING HE FOUGHT DOODLEMAN EARLIER WITH THE FULL UNDERSTANDING THAT ONE OF THEM COULD DIE]
Mars: but if there's one person on your team that this yasuragi guy cares about
Mars: then shouldn't that be reason enough for him and his people to leave you guys alone?
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Joker: congrats being the optimistic one
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[a frustrated noise, and Mars is typing. . . appears and disappears a lot]
Mars: i'm not great at giving advice
Mars: sorry it all sucks
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Joker: so you're fine
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[. . .]
[between this and the "not your Crow" comment yesterday, a memory that suddenly comes back to him rather vividly, Mars is. . . sudden unsure on how to proceed]
[. . .]
Mars: what can i do to help?
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actually a good question.]
Joker: ... i don't know
Joker: i don't know... what i want
Joker: or need
Joker: to deal with any of this
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Mars: probably not just a shallow, temporary feel-good distraction
Mars: right?
[running from feelings works temporarily, but. . .]
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Joker: you're kidding, right?
Joker: why the hell wouldn't i want something like that for once?
[please understand reality is hard. someone turn off his brain]
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Mars: because it won't actually help with the root of the problem?
[which is. . . what he wants to do, here. but maybe he's just not equipped for it-- not his Joker]
[maybe all he is good for is short, temporary feel-good distractions]
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Mars: yes
Mars: that to.
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Joker: i just want everything to stop being complicated and make sense again
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Mars: and what if that never happens?
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